[Opensource] OT: Total cost of ownership

[Jugjit Kairo]

Hello Geeta

I may have some information:

http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/specials/xmldotnet/0,39021182,39115503-2,00.htm

A special report on .Net from www.zdnet.co.uk based on
the security issues of migrating .Net.

Another document:

http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/internet/webservices/0,39020460,39115499,00.htm

XML and .Net a good report but not sure if it will
help.



J2EE report:

http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020469,2121919,00.htm


I hope all this helps, its quite difficult to get a
case study to define the benefits of each in cost and
productivity etc...
Anyway but I do hope it is some use to you.

Juggy



--- Geeta Ramani <geeta.ramani at cmpco.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone:
> 
> First, I'd like apologize for posting this off-topic
> question, and if people
> would prefer to respond to me off-list, that would
> be fine with me - thanks in
> advance for any and all answers!
> 
> The company I work with has recently merged into a
> larger company.  One result
> of this merger (of five smaller companies) is that
> many of my original
> company's technological decisions are now being
> questioned, or at least being
> looked into.  One such decision is a debate over
> whether to stay the course
> with Java/J2EE or to go over to .NET.  I have been
> put in a committee (with the
> grandiose title of "Web technology assesssment
> committee") to look into
> this.  I have been actively trying to argue the case
> for Java and in fact in
> the interim report that we submitted, five of the
> seven people in the committee
> have voted for going with J2EE (while only one said
> we should go .NET and the
> other suggested the use of both).  I had assumed
> that this would therefore
> persuade management to what I consider is the sane
> point of view, but
> apparantly there are people in the managerial
> circles who I believe are behind
> the scenes trying to put forth the idea that .net is
> the better way to go.  One
> argument that i hear is favoured is that "Total cost
> of ownership" is lower in
> the .net case..  I have tried many many times to
> show the advantages (both
> monetary and otherwise) of open source, (as well as
> the disadvantages of
> clamping ourselves to one vendor) but rather than
> see the advantages of OS,
> management seems to want to look into the "maybe
> costs" and the "hidden costs"
> (which don't seem to be articulated enough, in my
> opinion) and I believe they
> (maybe honestly) think that open source and free
> products "cannot" be
> true..(the old "nothing in life is free" argument
> -yaaawwn..)
> 
> So my question is this: does anybody here have any
> kind of "Total cost of
> ownership" figures (for .net vs. a j2ee solution
> like linux/apache/expresso or
> linux/apache/jboss) that I can bring to management's
> attention?  I have
> searched the web with not much success - most of the
> searches yield results in
> particular categories (like operating system Linux
> vs. Windows etc.)  Also, it
> has been suggested that training costs for J2EE are
> prohibitive (another factor
> in the TCO argument)..  Of course not really knowing
> much about the M$ world
> doesn't help me here - for example, is it really
> easier/cheaper to learn .net
> than it is j2ee?  Also, we hear a lot about
> Microsoft "clamping down" on
> security with their new MS2003 server - basing their
> approach apparantly on
> Apache's model of "allow nothing except what you
> absolutely have to". Is this
> credible?
> 
> If anybody has links or stories, which are not
> inherantly biased (so nothing
> from microsoft.com or sun.com may be appropriate!!),
> please share them with
> me:  I would really appreciate it..:)
> 
> Thank you very much for your time,
> Geeta
> 
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