[Opensource] The Great Frames Debate

[Peter A. Pilgrim]

Michael Rimov wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> I'd like to see some suggestions about this particular issue:
> 
> Several people have voiced their disgust with the current frames used in 
> Expresso.  I certainly agree that I'm not a frames fan myself.  However, 
> here's the problem:
> 
> Currently by using frames, we have the ability to have items like 
> DBMaint's jsps to behave as a drop in replacement for people's 
> applications.  Since DBMaint's JSP is just part of a frame, the jsp 
> doesn't have to me modified one iota to stand alone without the frames.

Are talking out the default handler, that just produces HTML generated
output if the developer does not specify a JSP view?

> If we did everything via Tiles, then for folks to use the jsps, hand 
> editing would have to be done for each item that folks want to work 
> standalone.

I cannot see this logic of this argument? Since you write a Tiles definition
and then overwrite the Tiles parameter at the same time when you
insert the definition.

> 
> Needless to say, this stinks.
> 
> So, is there anybody that has a suggestion on how to remove the frames, 
> WITHOUT removing any of the benefits that frames provide?
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts on this.
>                         -Mike


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