[Opensource] Discussion: Walkthrough Committee
Thompson, Kris
kris.thompson at seurat.com
Fri Mar 7 06:56:48 PST 2003
I love the concept! I'm not familiar with the method for selecting classes however I find this to be very critical since the number of classes we review will be so small and considering that Expresso is over the 500 class level. I would like to also suggest a nomination of classes for the review by the list in addition to your method.
As for how we could meet I think that a real-time meeting is very helpful I don't think we should limit it to just that. Maybe create a forum for the group to allow for pre/post discussions for them and anyone else who might be interested but may not be able to attend because of schedules/time zones. I know that some of the chatting services can provide a script of the meeting that might be useful for those who could not attend (I know Jabber does but maybe not their community edition)
I would love to volunteer.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Rimov [mailto:rimovm at centercomp.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:27 PM
> To: opensource at jcorporate.com
> Subject: [Opensource] Discussion: Walkthrough Committee
>
>
> Hey All,
>
> Just a thought here....
>
> As Lirian and others have voiced, the Expresso code base could use
> additional cleanup. To be honest, I only see the possibility of this
> happening by doing a series of code walk-throughs. I,
> personally, believe
> this is beneficial from a security standpoint as well since
> the OpenBSD has
> proven time and time again that such practices significantly
> increase the
> security of the software.
>
> So, if we did something like this, what would it look like?
> How would
> meetings happen? How often, how much, etc?
>
> I suggest that something along the lines of a minimum of a 3
> people meeting
> that took place once a month and would entail a walk-though
> of probably
> only one class at a time. Depending on the size of the class
> the group
> could decide to tackle more than one class as well.
>
> Pre-meeting tasks:
> -Have somebody with Jalopy reformat the code for the class
> we're going to
> look at. This would provide a standard format that we could
> all agree on.
>
> -Somebody goes through the class and walks through the
> javadocs on the
> class and adds what they do understand. Leave '????' for javadocs on
> undocumented classes/functions that don't make sense at a
> casual glance.
>
> Meeting Tasks: Generalized walkthrough the code. If nobody
> understands
> the code being looked at, the goal of the walkthrough is to
> just understand
> it at first and javadoc it. Look for code cleanup. Look for
> updating unit
> tests, etc.
>
> Quorum: As I said, I think 3 people groups are probably a
> good idea. For
> a distributed project and all our wild schedules, I don't
> really see being
> able to corral more folks at once than that. That doesn't
> mean only 3
> people have to sign up for walkthroughs! Depending on skill
> level with the
> code, folks could 'tag along', others could form their own
> group... or
> having additional people would help provide a 'pool' of
> people that could
> meet at a particular time, thus helping to ensure the
> meetings happen :)
> Each group would have to have a committer on board.
> [Major Contributor
> and higher], and that person makes changes as suggested.
> Anything that
> isn't a 'quick fix' should be added to the Expresso task list for
> fixing/refactoring for for the next release.
>
> How do we prioritize the classes to walk through? There was
> an interesting
> Dr. Dobbs article about somebody tracking down the classes
> that most likely
> need walkthrough's simply by running standard code metrics
> against various
> classes and computing a 'complexity' number. Higher
> complixity classes
> should be walked through first. This should help yield the
> highest number
> of bug fixes.
>
> How do we meet? That depends... we could MSN or AIM...
> there's a few UNIX
> folks out there that could donate the use of an IRC server.
> Or if somebody
> wanted to donate a 'conference call' system for use, that
> would be great
> too. This would be something to hash out.
>
> Anyway, I think things like this could greatly assist the
> Expresso code
> base. By only taking once class a month, we being a slow but
> steady effort
> to clean things up, and by prioritizing our walkthroughs we
> could get the
> worst offenders first. Best of all, participants would get thorough
> knowledge of one class at a time, and since.
>
> Reporting: Probably it would be best if the findings of the
> walkthrough
> were posted to the list. We could agree on a general
> template so that
> folks would only have to fill in the blanks.
>
> Implementation Timeline: I would like to start this probably
> after the
> release of 5.1 [or at least begin it well into the 'ea' schedule].
>
> So, the question is, what do you guys think of this, if we
> did this, who
> would volunteer, and finally what could be done to make this
> more efficient?
>
> Feedback appreciated!
> -Mike
>
>
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